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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post

    New front tyre could, should, make other bikes feature again.
    Or make the '24's untouchable given that locking/losing the front was their only weakness.

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    Well they kinda are already.

    KTM have not been able to fix thier chatter issues properly and Aprilia are all at sea, but sketchy conditions change things up.
    A change of front bias would be what Yamaha for example are likely making offerings for at various temples.
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    Simon Crafar said on after the flag that the only reason Enea went of the track was because he was looking back towards Martin. And as we all know you go where you look. I didnt atually see contact. Martin reacted quite suddenly twice as Enea appeared

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    Bastianini only looked back after the event - it was a dirty move in my opinion... diving up the inside - go for it (noting it doesn't take much of a nudge from the inside to send you well of line), but running him wide is not fair play. i suspect bastanini looked back to see if martin was still upright

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    So, obviously it's not the same thing, but I've had a couple supposedly gun riders bang into me and try run me off over the years, I'm like; if you can't beat with skill, you resort to, well, Bullying. So, yeah, not a fan.
    But riding tiny bikes for zero$ is not MotoGP. It's their trainset so that's how it is.
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    You'd be keen to rule against him and try leaving the track that evening.
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    Totally agree on that - remember way back (possibly 20 years or so) one of the riders had a security team to look after him in spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jato View Post
    Bastianini only looked back after the event - it was a dirty move in my opinion... diving up the inside - go for it (noting it doesn't take much of a nudge from the inside to send you well of line), but running him wide is not fair play. i suspect bastanini looked back to see if martin was still upright
    Well, it would have been OK if Bastianini had held his line. But he was never going to do that, and he's too good a rider not to understand that it was unlikely to be a clean pass. But an Italian riding a Ducati at Missno in their 100th race...

    So, what would Simon have done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post

    So, what would Simon have done?
    He's no fool. Majority decision of the stewards panel. As I understand it, he's going to chair it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    Well, it would have been OK if Bastianini had held his line. But he was never going to do that, and he's too good a rider not to understand that it was unlikely to be a clean pass. But an Italian riding a Ducati at Missno in their 100th race...

    So, what would Simon have done?

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    Did EB purposely push Martin wide though? He seemed to be wide and that was always going to make Martin go even wider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    Did EB purposely push Martin wide though? He seemed to be wide and that was always going to make Martin go even wider.
    No, but he dived down the inside knowing he was likely to run wide. He said as much in the post race interview.

    Most of the riders didn't have a problem with the pass, but they all want consistency if they do the same thing in future. That's where it's likely to be an issue.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    No, but he dived down the inside knowing he was likely to run wide. He said as much in the post race interview.

    Most of the riders didn't have a problem with the pass, but they all want consistency if they do the same thing in future. That's where it's likely to be an issue.



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    I see Miller says it's almost impossible to pass without hitting. The bikes with all the aero now are trucks compared to the 500's
    and nowhere near as nimble.

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    ah well, we all like constancy heh.
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    https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature...ons-unanswered

    Hmm.

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    Interesting.. so everyone seems to think its either Enea's fault, or not, but the real issue is no one officially said anything?

    It hurts my old head.
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    i reckon if that incedent occurred earlier in the season in a "neutral" country Basti would have lost a place , but last lap with a home crowd etc it becomes a way-too-hot potato .Hopefully we don't now see a open season approach for remaining races, and more importantly that the title fight doesn't end up effectively decided by that stunt

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