I thought this was the most appropriate thread for this.
So far four people in NZ have died of this terrible plague that has required all but the most essential services to be shut down & will cause the ruin of many small & large business, & threatens the freedom & sanity of many individuals.
We know that at least one of those people was In their '90's & another was 70 something, with other serious health problems.
We also know that over 1000 people have fully recovered from this terrible virus, which means that it has a less than .04% mortality rate, & a lot better than that in healthy people. That rate would be unlikely to change, regardless of lockdown, as its based on people already infected.
We also know that four people out of a population of four million plus, means that across all age & health demographics, you currently have less than a one in a million chance of dying from it.
This year in NZ around 35,000 people will die from all causes combined.
Food for thought?
Nope. What it shows, in comparison to countries that didn't lockdown quickly enough, is that the shutdown has probably saved a fair few thousand lives.. but by all means carry on smoking whatever it is you're smoking that makes you see the world in such fucked up terms. It's up there with, yeah we may well be destroying the environment we rely on for life in order to make an economy run, but it's the best we can do. Seriously, I could do with a break from sanity for a while, what are you smoking?
You're right, because people were already doing that very thing when the economy was rockstar. People are killing themselves because they cannot afford to live. give them the resources they need and they wouldn't kill themselves. It's an exceptionally well evidenced thing called Structural Violence.Originally Posted by sidecar bob
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"Probably a fair few thousand", based on a vague guess I'm assuming.
You haven't disputed any of the facts I posted, just made a generalized derogatory wave In my direction.
Absolute worst case scenario if every person in NZ was infected based on current survival stats is 1600 deaths.
A number of them would have died of too many birthdays as a root cause.
But hey, I know mass hysteria is the current mindset, & going against the trend with some facts will go down like a cup of cold sick to some.
"Nope. What it shows, in comparison to countries that didn't lockdown quickly enough, is that the shutdown has probably saved a fair few thousand lives"
WTF are you smoking, please please please send to...........
Yes, but the NZ rates you're basing that on are lockdown rates, not open transmission rates. The death rates in other countries are open transmission rates, not lockdown rates.Originally Posted by sidecar bob
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I assume you're finished pleasuring yourself with the edit function?
Mass hysteria? Please point out somewhere in the world that has descended into mass hysteria? People are queuing more politely then when the sales are on. So no, the only hysteria is in your tiny mind.Originally Posted by sidecarbob
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I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Well I've stated some figures that are absolute mathematical fact, & your mind won't let you absorb them as fact.
It's like they somehow fry your brain of rational process, due to your overwhelming desire to believe an alternative scenario.
It seems like a form of hysteria.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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