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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I hear ya.

    Here's the Road User Rule which deals with it.

    Footpaths
    2.13Driving along footpath
    (1)A driver must not drive a motor vehicle along a footpath.
    (2)Subclause (1) does not apply to a person who rides a moped or motorcycle on a footpath in the course of delivering newspapers, mail, or printed material to letter boxes if the road controlling authority has authorised the use of the footpath for that purpose.
    Compare: SR 1976/227 r 14
    Clause 2.13(2): added, on 1 November 2009, by clause 9 of the Land Transport (Road User) Amendment Rule 2009 (SR 2009/253).

    Ipso facto, ya can't do it unless the Road Controlling Authority ( e.g. council) says so.
    But a footpath is a road so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    But a footpath is a road so...
    Casting my mind back to my days as a baby traffic cop, the road runs from the edge of private property on one side of the road to the edge of private property on the other side.

    This includes footpaths, verges etc. Basically the definition ties in with the rest of the legislation, meaning you can be prosecuted for driving anywhere unless it's private property. And some legislation even includes private property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
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    can you fucks please stop saying "law" when you mean "legislation"
    they are spearate things, one relies on ignorance to persist.

    a "road" is legally any place the public have access, whether as of right or not.
    (and includes a sea lane, for that whole maritime law shebang fuck you)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    can you fucks please stop saying "law" when you mean "legislation"
    ................ one relies on ignorance to persist.
    Hey Knobend........stop referring to me as a Fuck.

    And I've always differentiated between law and legislation.

    If "one relies on ignorance to persist" I guess that explains how you persist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    And I've always differentiated between law and legislation.
    no, you dont. If you did there wouldnt be square paranthesis in your quote in my sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    I think this was particularly about the bus lanes, it's been previously covered that bus only doesn't specifically exclude which is required under the laws.
    I seem to remember that there is no such thing as a bus lane along the motorway, just an "emergency stopping shoulder" or similar.

    As mentioned multiple times, "specifically excluded" is the legislative wording and is why there is a signpost at each onramp to the motorway with a bicycle in a circle, with a bar across it, and another with a pedestrian with a bar across it. These are signs which specifically exclude pedestrians and bicycles. "bus only" is inclusive and not exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    no, you dont. If you did there wouldnt be square paranthesis in your quote in my sig.
    My bad.

    I'm normally good with things like that.

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    Exclamation Lane Splitting and Bus Lanes

    Firstly, Bus lanes are explained in the Road Code, Bus Only lanes are self-explanatory really. If you don't know this information, you should grab a copy of the road code and give it a re-read.

    Lane-splitting has been clarified by the NZ Police and NZTA.

    LANE SPLITTING
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    Any commuter in any of New Zealand’s major cities has likely witnessed motorcyclists travelling between queued traffic on busy roads during peak commuter traffic times. This practice, known as lane splitting, is the cause of an amount of friction between motorcyclists and other road users.

    Over and above the potential safety issues, there is some confusion on whether or not lane splitting is legal on New Zealand roads.

    The following outlines the legal situation, and also offers some advice on keeping yourself safe should you, as a motorcycle rider, elect to lane split.
    Lane splitting falls within the overtaking rules as found in the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004.

    2.6 General requirements about passing other vehicles
    (1) A driver must not pass or attempt to pass another vehicle moving in the same direction unless—
    (a) the movement can be made with safety; and
    (b) the movement is made with due consideration for other users of the road; and
    (c) suf cient clear road is visible to the driver for the passing movement to be completed without impeding or being likely to impede any possible opposing traffic; and

    (d) until the passing movement is completed, the driver has a clear view of the road and any traffic on the road for at least 100m in the direction in which the driver is travelling.
    (2) Sub clauses (1) (c) and (d) does not apply if the passing vehicle and the vehicle being passed are in different lanes and
    are, throughout the passing movement, either on a one-way road or on the same side of the centre line.
    (3) A driver must not, when passing another vehicle moving in the same direction, move into the line of passage of that vehicle until the manoeuvre can be made safely and without impeding the movement of that other vehicle.

    »What it means
    Overtaking can be completed at any time provided you don’t impede oncoming traffic, have 100 metres clear view of traffic throughout the manoeuvre, don’t cut off the vehicle being overtaken when you pull back into the lane and can complete the manoeuvre with due consideration for other road users. The speed limit for the area must also be complied with. If travelling in separate lanes you may overtake on either the left or right provided you remain in your lane.


    2.7 Passing on right
    A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the right of another vehicle moving in the same direction when—
    (a) approaching or crossing an intersection unless—
    (i) the roadway is marked in lanes and the driver can make the movement without the driver’s vehicle encroaching on a lane available for opposing traffic; or
    (ii) in any other case, the driver can make the movement with safety and with due consideration for users of the intersecting road; or
    (b) approaching or passing a ush median, unless the driver—
    (i) intends to turn right from the road marked with the ush median into another road or vehicle entrance; or
    (ii) has turned right onto the road marked with the ush median; or
    (iii) can make the entire movement without encroaching on the ush median.

    »What it means

    Overtaking approaching an intersection may only be performed if the manoeuvre can be made without entering lanes available for oncoming traffic, and can be made safely with consideration for other road users. On roads marked with a flush median, the median is not available as an overtaking lane. Flush medians can only be driven on if you intend turning into a side road or driveway, or have pulled out from a side road and are using the flush median to merge with traffic.
    You may overtake on the right if you remain completely in the lane you are travelling in.


    2.8 Passing on left
    (1) A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the left of another vehicle moving in the same direction except in accordance with this clause.
    (2) In any case in which the movement referred to sub clause (1) may be made,—
    (a) the 2 vehicles must be in different lanes; or
    (b) the overtaken vehicle must be stationary or its driver must have given or be giving the prescribed signal of that driver’s intention to turn right; or
    (c) if the overtaken vehicle is a light rail vehicle moving in the same direction, the light rail vehicle must not be—
    (i) signalling an intention to turn left or to stop; or
    (ii) stationary for the purposes of allowing passengers to alight or board.
    (3) If the roadway is marked in lanes, the driver may make the movement referred in sub clause (1) only if the driver’s vehicle does not encroach on a lane that is unavailable to a driver.

    »What it means
    You may overtake on the left if the vehicles being overtaken are stationary or are indicating a right hand turn. You may also overtake on the left if travelling in separate lanes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WristTwister View Post
    Firstly, Bus lanes are explained in the Road Code, Bus Only lanes are self-explanatory really. If you don't know this information, you should grab a copy of the road code and give it a re-read.

    Lane-splitting has been clarified by the NZ Police and NZTA.
    Is there any special reason why I need to highlight what followed the above in order to read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Is there any special reason why I need to highlight what followed the above in order to read it?
    I am picking she doesn't realise most people on KB, use the "dark zone" black background option.
    You can swap it at the bottom left of this page.
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    That's a long winded way of saying it. But that level of detail is necessary as its anot intricate area of legislation.

    One point to ponder though. Being right and being safe are two different things.

    It's legal to ride up the left hand side of a line of stationary vehicles, but it's rarely without significant risk. As few drivers are expecting you to be there, legal or not.

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    I'd be interested to see where the Police outlined the legality of splitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I'd be interested to see where the Police outlined the legality of splitting.
    From what is in the legislation/laws, there is nothing to prohibit lane splitting, provided that none of the rules mentioned in the previous post are broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    This includes footpaths, verges etc. Basically the definition ties in with the rest of the legislation, meaning you can be prosecuted for driving anywhere unless it's private property. And some legislation even includes private property.
    If the gate's open it's road... yay for vague legislation.
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