Registering a classic bike with no rego details

**neil_cb125t** · 17th February 2015, 09:43

hey all,

I have just gone through the process of registering a classic bike that had very little rego history. It was hard to find out what hoops you had to jump through....so heres a guideline based on my experience. The bike was a 1973 350. Classed as a classic by VTNZ.

First thing you need a documentation that you own said bike, sale agreement or bill of sale. This needs to have frame and engine numbers on it with a date and name of the seller.

Then you need a vehicle inspector (VTNZ) to certify the bike is what you are trying to register i.e the frame number is correct. They simply view the bike (on the trailer is fine) and create a "this is the bike document" - this service usually is free from VTNZ

Then you need to apply to LTSA to gain approval to rego the bike - this is done using the form below

http://vehicleinspection.nzta.govt.n...documents-form

The areas that are important on this form is at the top of page 3. its states

These documents must be provided before the application can proceed.
Proof of previous registration (see Note 2)
Ownership trail (original documents leading from the last registered owner to the current
New Zealand owner, eg bill of sale, auction invoices, any relevant document may be considered) (see Note 3)
Written VIN/chassis verification (accepted from approved inspecting organisations on their letterhead only, with signature and ID number)
Independently certified translation of any documents not written in English Photographs of the vehicle and identifiers.

If the bike has been imported from overseas then the registration details (plate number/history) needs to be used. I had very little information, and could only provided some old hand written bills of sales from the 80s, I found an old application of registration which lined up against the bikes details. Old photos of the bike is also great, black and white is fine! I then provided a bunch of photos of my restoration process.

The application has to be paid for UPFRONT before they start working on it and its $184.

Once you receive approval you then take the bike in for compliance VTNZ again, its an in-depth WOF on a bike and costs $133.00. I was told any bike PRE 77 does not require a brake compliance check, however my bike did need a mirror on the left hand bar. This gives you the paper work to rego it, a vin plate which must be fitted to the bike (under the seat can be ok) and a brand new WOF. You then have to buy a plate and pay for the registration. For my 73 350 was $177.00. At this stage you bike is legal!!!

Grand total price was $184+133+177= $484 total.

My biggest surprise was the application for rego - this can take up to 20 working days, it took me 4 as the person i dealt with was awesome. My first application was denied as i had provided no history or documentation. I thought the statement "I'm restoring a classic" would suffice. it doesn't.

hope this helps someone for the future

chappy

**Cresco750** · 17th February 2015, 10:17

Great write up Chappy. I was talking to a compliance officer yesterday about getting one, and ultimately both of my RE5's re-VINed. One of my bikes doesn't have any official registration history or paperwork trail, ie it doesn't have any plates attached, no VIN plate, no ownership papers, no photos, etc, however it does still show in the LTSA system. I was told that compliance should still be possible as long as I can present a sales receipt like you said, and I was also given another form called a "Statutory Declaration, Ownership of Motor Vehicle" (VINZ form 156), which is a declaration to sign in front of a JP etc stating that you are indeed the lawful owner. I guess the more paperwork that you can give them the better your case sounds?

Cheers

**Mike.Gayner** · 17th February 2015, 10:30

I had very much the same experience getting my A7 registered.
https://a7avenger.wordpress.com/2014...n-new-zealand/

**neil_cb125t** · 17th February 2015, 20:13

Originally Posted by Cresco750

Great write up Chappy. I was talking to a compliance officer yesterday about getting one, and ultimately both of my RE5's re-VINed. One of my bikes doesn't have any official registration history or paperwork trail, ie it doesn't have any plates attached, no VIN plate, no ownership papers, no photos, etc, however it does still show in the LTSA system. I was told that compliance should still be possible as long as I can present a sales receipt like you said, and I was also given another form called a "Statutory Declaration, Ownership of Motor Vehicle" (VINZ form 156), which is a declaration to sign in front of a JP etc stating that you are indeed the lawful owner. I guess the more paperwork that you can give them the better your case sounds?

Cheers

Yes fella - the more paperwork the better! sometimes creativity is your friend...ill leave it as that on this site - if you need further assistance them Pm me and ill help where I Can

chap

**neil_cb125t** · 17th February 2015, 20:20

Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner

I had very much the same experience getting my A7 registered.
https://a7avenger.wordpress.com/2014...n-new-zealand/

Nice 350 fella - mines a S2a, sounds like you had some bad luck on rego day.......I went home and checked the torque settings on everything and one of the main studs holding barrels and head started to pull out of the case. strip down and off to the shop on rego day......classics are super fun

chap

**Kittyhawk** · 17th February 2015, 20:51

Went to the cop shop to find out how to vin one of my bikes, got no snail paper trail...they gave me a form to fill out saying I was the legal owner then said the bike can be vinned...

This was a few years ago now, has it changed since then?

**Arronduke** · 17th February 2015, 20:59

Great thread,

I have a mint standard GSX100EZ 83 - sitting in my shed, been there a couple of years, has a plate but I have no bill of sale to go with it, purchased off trade me.
I will see if the plate will help me track down anything? Not sure it will help.

And to think I had the dude info and all, gone now.

Need to get it vinned before I start to tear it apart!

**hayd3n** · 17th February 2015, 22:29

i found it easy got a deceleration of ownership from a jp ,delivered bike to vinz and 3 hrs later i rode home with a brand new plate and rego/wof

**neil_cb125t** · 18th February 2015, 14:11

Originally Posted by hayd3n

i found it easy got a deceleration of ownership from a jp ,delivered bike to vinz and 3 hrs later i rode home with a brand new plate and rego/wof

Nice yep that too can help :-)

**Arronduke** · 19th February 2015, 21:12

Originally Posted by hayd3n

i found it easy got a deceleration of ownership from a jp ,delivered bike to vinz and 3 hrs later i rode home with a brand new plate and rego/wof

Cool, so you just turn up to a JP tell the dude you own it, they give you a deceleration and off you go.

Sounds to easy..!

Might steal a Ferrari next time I see one... even just to own it for 5min...before prison.

**eelracing** · 20th February 2015, 13:39

Originally Posted by Arronduke

Cool, so you just turn up to a JP tell the dude you own it, they give you a deceleration and off you go.

Sounds to easy..!

Might steal a Ferrari next time I see one... even just to own it for 5min...before prison.

Pretty much all I had to do...maybe the rest of you look like dodgy fuckers.

**Spindr** · 12th February 2016, 08:49

Hi Chappy,

Fantastic luck finding this post just as im struggling myself to put a 1968 motorbike/moped I bought over from Vietnam through the system. I have all the paperwork you stated in your post but don't have a statement of compliance from the original manufacturer. I've been told this may be a major issue, but you haven't even mentioned it as part of your process. I'm wondering if this is because I'm trying to get mine through as a moped? It is only 49cc, so shouldn't be a problem. Did you run into any issues with this statement of compliance?

Cheers!
Nikki

**jellywrestler** · 12th February 2016, 09:04

Originally Posted by Spindr

Hi Chappy,

Fantastic luck finding this post just as im struggling myself to put a 1968 motorbike/moped I bought over from Vietnam through the system. I have all the paperwork you stated in your post but don't have a statement of compliance from the original manufacturer. I've been told this may be a major issue, but you haven't even mentioned it as part of your process. I'm wondering if this is because I'm trying to get mine through as a moped? It is only 49cc, so shouldn't be a problem. Did you run into any issues with this statement of compliance?

Cheers!
Nikki

a lot of suppliers are out of business, they do it all the time so it's not important, it might be nice to have but not essential.

**swarfie** · 12th February 2016, 09:27

It's also not so much what you know as who you know. Some people working for VTNZ etc can be plain pig ignorant and most unhelpful and others couldn't do more to make the process run smooth for you. I have a friend in Dorkland (no longer working for VTNZ unfortunately) who all the VCC club members used to get vehicles (bikes included as he rides one) complied. He knew all the ins and outs and made life a breeze for a lot of people going through the process.
My Dad recently got a 1975 Honda XL175 done at the local VTNZ and the guy out and out lied to him, saying he couldn't get it rego'd on the old black plate. Really pissed me off as he'd owned the bike since it was 18 months old, had the ownership papers, and the original black plate. He'd simply let the rego lapse

This was a crock and it's rego'd with a fucking ugly white plate now. Once rego'd with a white plate the process can't be reversed. I could have strangled said VTNZ employee

Apply to Tania at NZTA in Parmy and she'll walk you through the process...piece of piss.

**neels** · 12th February 2016, 09:41

Originally Posted by swarfie

This was a crock and it's rego'd with a fucking ugly white plate now. Once rego'd with a white plate the process can't be reversed.

The only way around this is to pay an exorbitant amount of money for a personalised plate with the same number as the old black plate, after that the black plate is then legal(ish) again.