Wow - you must be one of those real motorcyclists I've read about all my life. But them I've only been riding 35 years.
ACC - pays when you have a accident. Been on a user pays system for bloody ages now - thus motorcyclists as a small user group with high claims pay more.
What would be interesting is if all those 'wimps' in cars in Auckland starting riding would there be proportionally less motorcycle accidents thus lower ACC fees or would there be a higher number of accidents?
The $500 or so a year I pay for rego represents good value to legally ride and do something that I have had a passion for my entire life. With the bonus of state funded medical cover if I have a accident.
What society should be bitching about is all the people getting pissed up on Fri and Sat nights and ending up in hospital. For free. Charge those fucker a release fee I say and maybe they won't get so drunk next time.
If by that you mean someone that lives for the bike then yes, that's me.
The question is, how many days in those 35 years have you actually ridden? Although it's the mindset that counts.
This is what it has been bastardised into. Even ACC has missed to point of what ACC is all about.
I think you would get an initial increase and then the proportional accident rate would decrease. Either way it would be a good thing. At least then we wouldn't be a battered minority.
Don't get me wrong. As it stands the actual dollar value is not the issue. I agree that this is a small proportion of the annual running costs (especially when the bike is primary transport as it is with me). The problem is that we're held at fault for all our accidents (whether we caused them or not) under "NO FAULT" system. Am I the only one that can see the contradiction?
Once again you've missed the point of ACC. It's a system that is supposed to let EVERYONE do what fallible humans do and not end up in the poor house when it doesn't go according to plan. As a result everyone benefits.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
accident
ˈaksɪd(ə)nt/Submit
noun
1.
an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
"he had an accident at the factory"
synonyms: mishap, misfortune, misadventure, mischance, unfortunate incident, injury, disaster, tragedy, catastrophe, contretemps, calamity, blow, trouble, problem, difficulty; technicalcasualty
Going out and deliberately getting shit faced is not a accident - no free treatment.
So all trail bikes, quad bikes, etc should have some form of chargeable registration as accidents on these motorcycles are added to the collective government stats and the road bikes charged accordingly.
The alternative to ACC is to drop it and run a litigation system as per the USA - fall off the ladder you borrowed from your friend - sue him for the slippery footing that was slippery due to the dried paint on it that reduced the grip of the manufactures grip tread.
ACC is a faulty system but one I prefer.
If you're talking about treatment for alcohol poisoning then I agree with you. If you're talking about falling down and cracking your skull because you were drunk then that is an accident i.e. "an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally". The drunk did not intend to injure themselves.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
Not at all . As I've said before the only fair way to pay for ACC is from income tax. Get away from all this "user pays" bullshit and the admin savings alone would be enormous*.
Agreed.
*I'm all for user pays as long as the user is correctly defined. In the case of ACC the "user" is the whole country.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
So, is anyone going to go to this park up?
Too Fat To Ride Slim
Where's Devonport?
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