Research help needed for oral submission

**XP@** · 8th December 2009, 22:23

Hey,
I'm preparing my oral presentation to the select sub comittee on thursday and need a bit of a hand...

I remember seeing an article where the raise for motorcyclists was something like "from $400 to $700 only a $300 rise now". I'm not sure of the figures but the point being it is the 400 includes petrol levies but the 700 does not.

If anyone can find it in a quality publication (news paper or govt site) then please link so I can refer to it.

Also if there are any other references which are, beyond reasonable doubt, examples of them using misleading numbers I would be interested. But the need to be good, I don't want to be shot down too badly

**Nasty** · 9th December 2009, 05:19

I am tryng stuff ... here are some articles .. I am looking for the one you are talking about:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2964...t-big-fee-hike.

re read and its based on the first figure comparison I think.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...e-big-ACC-bill

Its hard to tell if they say that bigger bikes pay $400 plus now ... but the article reads that.

Under today's recommendations the motor vehicle levy would increase from $119.08 to $182.27. The new recommendation is down on the $204.60 that ACC consulted on.

Moped levies would increase from $100.46 to $277.25. The previous recommendation was $292.93.

Motorcycyles in the 0-125 cc range were better off going from $430.54 to $277.25. However gruntier bikes were worse off – those in the 126-600 cc range would go from $430.54 to $517.52. The previous recommendation was $546.78.

And bikes 601cc plus would increase from $430.54 to $739.32, lower than the previous $781.12 recommendation.

**davereid** · 9th December 2009, 06:51

Originally Posted by XP@

I remember seeing an article where the raise for motorcyclists was something like "from $400 to $700 only a $300 rise now". I'm not sure of the figures but the point being it is the 400 includes petrol levies but the 700 does not.

They don't include GST either.. so your $750 ACC levy will cost you about $860 by the time the rego fee, handling fee and gst go on.

**MSTRS:Me** · 9th December 2009, 07:19

There is Nick the Prick's assertion that motorcycle accidents have skyrocketed in the last 10 years. He quoted a figure of 874 IIRC in 1998 compared to 5044 in 2008.
What he didn't say was that 1998's figure was serious accidents only, and 2008 was all accidents no matter how minor.
There is no corresponding figure for 1998, because the mainframe that info was on was decommissioned without transferring that info.
So the only comparison to be made is 874 with 2008's serious figure - 1335ish. A 60% increase...coupled with a 100% increase in bike numbers. So...actually a decrease in the accident rate.

**XP@** · 9th December 2009, 08:34

Originally Posted by Nasty

I am tryng stuff ... here are some articles .. I am looking for the one you are talking about:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2964...t-big-fee-hike.

re read and its based on the first figure comparison I think.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...e-big-ACC-bill

Its hard to tell if they say that bigger bikes pay $400 plus now ... but the article reads that.

Cheers :0) you been awsome thanks for you help

Can you please pm me your email . I want to send the speach so far, I ain't no where near done yet

**XP@** · 10th December 2009, 00:20

My notes are complete...
time for bed now... looking forward and dreading tomorrow at the same time.

Thanks all for your help

And Nasty, see you tomorrow ...
I hope they

otherwise we will

and all in the allotted 10 mins!

(I just got told off for over use of smilies)

good night!