acknowledging this is a thread dredge...
Yes, we pay for overseas visitors and tourists when they have an accident, we pay for their loved ones to fly out to New Zealand, we pay for their accommodation and rehabilitation in many (not all) cases - ACC is deliberately vague about this saying it will "cover a wide range of other services"): in short = all treatment of an accident in the public hospital system is "free" to the victim as inpatient treatment (and then many outpatient costs) are paid for by the New Zealand taxpayer.
This is done because it's not possible to sue in New Zealand for exemplary damages if other people injure you. And you can't be sued if you injure other people. So the government of the day decided that we would pay for injured foreign tourists' medical expenses because we had removed their right to claim damages from the people who injured them.
Riding in the US without significant six-figure insurance coverage for injuries to others resulting from my actions, or the actions of uninsured or underinsured other parties injuring me, would be foolish in the extreme. But travelling uninsured in New Zealand primarily hurts the pocket of only the New Zealand taxpayer as injured overseas tourists generally claim all the way up to what the legislation and ACC rules allow.* (I and others have observed that injured overseas tourists are frequently better informed about ACC entitlements than are many New Zealand taxpayers).
ACC support may be available to you as a visitor if you are:
injured in an accident within New Zealand
in certain circumstances suffering from a health problem related to working in New Zealand
injured as a result of medical treatment while you are in New Zealand
dealing with the mental effects of a sexual assault or abuse suffered in New Zealand.
The injury must have happened in New Zealand. You are considered outside New Zealand, and so not covered:
if you are injured while aboard the boat or plane on which you travelled to New Zealand, or in getting on or off that boat or plane
if you are injured while travelling around the country in the craft you arrived in, such as a yacht or cruise ship. You are not covered whenever you are on board or on the gangway
if you take an excursion during your visit that takes you 300 nautical miles or more from New Zealand.
If you’re injured during your visit to New Zealand, ACC may be able to help with the cost of treatment and support you need while you’re here. However, it is important to be aware that you cannot sue for damages arising from your personal injury – ACC cover removes that right.
ACC only covers treatment and rehabilitation costs while you are in New Zealand; it is not a replacement for travel insurance and does not cover illness, disrupted travel plans or emergency travel to get you back home. We strongly recommend you arrange travel insurance before visiting New Zealand.
Most tourists being not stupid, and with many advocates telling them their entitlements, many injured tourists & families stay on in New Zealand for months or even in a few cases years to get follow-up treatment, because without any or sufficient travel insurance, they wouldn't have coverage for injuries sustained in NZ once they are back in their home country.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/103...ist-lives-lost
'The Ministry of Transport said 13 of those killed last year involved riding Harley Davidson bikes, seven deaths involved Yamaha bikes.'
'Keilty said male riders aged 40 and above show statistically they are more likely to be involved in a fatal crash.'
To me, boomers on Harley's need to pat their fair share. Statically more likely, pay up
Last edited by Berries; 7th May 2018 at 07:33. Reason: Because troll
AND INJURIES, there you go. Irony averted
Source: https://www.transport.govt.nz/assets...ycles-2017.pdf
And who pays for the emergency services picking up the pieces in a fatality? Genuinely curious, if you can shed some light.
Jeez Wayne! Get over your obsession with group rides and other people being at fault...
Does it really matter how many died on a group ride or how many died when riding by them self or how many died because someone made an error of judgement? NO!
What does matter is that someone died! Someone who was part of a family, a community, a workplace, a sports team...
The flow on from that person's death is huge, it's like throwing a large boulder into a small pond - the splash goes everywhere and covers a large area.
What does matter is that we, as riders and drivers, do whatever we can to be the best rider or driver we can be at all times so that we never have to say that someone died because of our actions.
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